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schott

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2011-02-08 19-42-01

Oprah from Fat to Skinny today. How do you feel about weight loss surgery? I understand the whole fat acceptance thing in the gay community, especially with lesbains. But, do you have judgement with gays/lesbians that have had the surgery?
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2011-02-11 9-18-24-

fat acceptance thing? I can't imagine why it would matter if they're gay or straight. personally, I think getting surgery is worthless because it doesn't address the issue that lead to the weight gain in the first place - and that issue is different from person to person (i.e., emotional eating, uneducated about nutrition, portion control). plus, the only way to lose weight and keep it off is to modify what you eat and exercise until you achieve a healthy weight and learn to maintain it - although the surgery gets the person to that healthy weight, they often - and understandably so - go back to their unhealthy habits.
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2011-02-12 22-31-39

Not sure that it's like this everywhere but my friend that had it done was very obeast and he would have died if he didn't do it...he had to go to classes for weight management and see a shrink i think.
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    2011-02-28 9-46-34-

    well, I hear her on the lesbian thing Every gay man I know who doesn't have a six pack has said, "damn, I'm so fat," or something along the lines of that. And trust me, they are not fat but a normal regular weight sans defined abs. The het males I've known however have never said anything about not being cut.
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    2011-04-01 21-05-54

    oh, I see what she meant. I think that's changing, as many lesbians don't want to perpetuate that stereotype - an unhealthy one, at that!
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    2011-06-20 12-17-34

    which stereotype? being accepting of non hwp women or not being hwp?
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    2011-07-05 18-05-04

    I meant the stereotype of the 'fat dyke'.
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    2011-08-13 19-55-48

    oh wow. mission gay women & the hets who dress the same way are very easy to "stereotype" or typecast: x'x - x'x, white, x lbs, inked, pierced, works at a not for profit, doesn't shave her underarms, and most likely vegetarian. At least in my experience.
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    2011-09-26 2-21-22-

    unfortunately, there's no diet for that.
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    2011-09-28 12-23-59

    shut up, that's my people.
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    2011-12-01 19-15-39

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    2012-01-22 16-48-35

    well, i'm not saying i AM one of those people. i'm not xlbs, among other things.
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    2012-06-06 0-42-12-

    some feel that if you have had the surgery you are a traitor or something. That you turned your back on accepting your own body and all the good and bad that comes with it. In some ways that you turned your back on all women.
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    2012-06-23 9-15-41-

    wow. that's delusional. your body and the fat covering it areseperate entities - the former is you, the lr is the outcome of one's eating and exercise habits. I'm fat, and let me tell you - I don't feel any sort of relation to any other fat person.
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    2012-09-19 15-44-13

    ya, but HOW fat? Some say they are... but in reality they are only x-x pounds over weight. Which in my book is just right for something to hold on to. And I understand it's all relative to each person's ideal weight and comfort level.
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    misha

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    2012-09-20 17-15-21

    fat is an actual label - not obese, not morbid and not overweight. I'm sure if you google, there are guides you can find. and of course, it's whateverfeels comfortable at - but I was referring to your statement that people feel like 'traitors' to some imagined community of overweight individual. come on!
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    2012-10-01 19-05-52

    it's true...that you should be happy with what you have and if you take any measures that may be viewed as drastic, you are bastardized for it. put it this way...if you are not happy with yourself being overweight, that you will/have judgement on others that are also overweight.
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    2012-11-18 16-53-12

    soshould be happy overweight? I don't know if I agree with that... happy = complacent = unrealistic about the health issues with being overweight.
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    I think joerocket & I are discussing obese people - not those who are lingering x lbs overweight on some chart. and I'm sure you'll agree with me that as soon as there is joint pain, difficulty breathing after a flight of steps and pre-diabetic conditions, that's nothing to be happy about.
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    Definitions of overweight/obesity Body Mass Index or BMI (kilograms/metersx), based on an individual’s height and weight, is an indicator of overweight, obesity, and underweight in adults. An individual is overweight if his/her BMI is at least x and no greater than x.x. An individual is obese if their BMI is x or higher. If the BMI is less than x.x, the individual is considered underweight. Courtesy the NIH
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