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guitierrez

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2011-02-08 2-34-47-

Need some varied viewpoints, please I do not think I will do this but......... I would not mind hearing some pros and cons on a very sweet offer I received this week. I am an elderly lesbian and have a dear old gay male friend. We have separate houses and separate lives and meet often for lunch and antique shopping. He is very concerned that I do not have health insurance and that it is not affordable to me. He can add me to his policy for no cost, IF he and I get married. We would live apart, as we do now. I can think of dozens of cons and a few pros. Could you share your thoughts please?
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arley

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2011-02-10 5-52-10-

I think his employer would not look too favorably on a sham marriage and your application could be considered fraudulent. Are you willing to risk that?
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2011-02-11 0-00-25-

stealing is as stealing does apply for some sort of welfare, or medicare? If it was my choice, I wouldn't lie about my life.
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2011-02-11 13-10-17

It's insurance fraud If you are okay with that, then I guess you just have to weigh your chances of being caught (and punished) against whatever benefits you may receive. If he works for a small company, then I think there is a high risk of being found out. Also, California is a community property state, and there may be some legal issues arising from that if you divorce or if one of you dies intestate.
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  • buscemi

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    2011-02-13 0-28-46-

    Since her scenario doesn’t have her marrying a stranger but a dear friend it would be really hard to prove and dangerous for the insurance company to question that their marriage wasn’t just as valid as many others. The reason that people marry other people is as varied as the emotions of every human being. Is it fraudulent to marry for money, status, geographical location? Are arranged marriages frauds (many are solely about financial compensation for the family)? In the history of marriage it was far more common for women to marry for all kinds of financial reasons as opposed to love. I’d love to take on an insurance company that accused me of fraud because I married a dear male friend so that I could have health insurance. I wonder what grounds they could use. What could the criteria for a valid marriage be? Would they suggest that once a person is a homosexual that they can’t later be heterosexual? Would they try to prove that the marriage was never consummated? If so wouldn’t making sex the criteria for a recognized marriage open the door to question poly couples (or cheaters) for having sex outside of the one man one woman thing? Or the numerous couples that don’t have sex often because they are busy with life? Wouldn’t requiring consummation as the clincher for recognition of a valid marriage follow with a requirement that all married couples have sex at a required frequency to keep their marriage valid or be suspected of fraud? Sometimes what companies and our government threaten to do if we do something is just designed to scare you into not doing what wouldn’t financially benefit them. Sometimes they even impose laws or restrictions that they know won’t hold up in court but if no one challenges the restrictions they seem to be valid. I’m stunned that some people are seemingly okay with an insurance company or the government invading someone’s privacy with regard to the validity of one’s marriage but are outraged that TSA might touch them at the airport. It’s a crazy, crazy world!!
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    2011-02-21 2-57-18-

    Aw, you've been practicing your righteous indignation, haven't you?
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    2011-03-03 2-04-07-

    Hahahahahahah what a FUCKING dumbass were you dropped on your head? I just wanted to be polite in a way that you would understand while pointing out that it’s you that is full of incessant self righteous indignation for everyone but a few here. Understanding this forum and your past comments to me I’ve been made to believe that the title to my post is common language here, appreciated by everyone and will actually encourage you to engage in more conversation with me. I certainly hope that’s true because I do believe that it’s a crazy, crazy world and it really takes all kinds of people.
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    My past comments to you? But you've only been registered for x days. This must be like looking in a mirror for you, huh?
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    2011-06-30 11-04-33

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    2011-08-03 19-30-15

    This was the second time you had commented to me as you have so nicely posted for the first for the sake of accuracy. So the plural use of the word comment is accurate not revealing. Dumb much? The definition of a sockpuppet is someone who speaks with or about herself on a forum so you must believe that I’m actually lon, axtx, or you? At the detriment of repeating myself…Dumb much?
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    2011-09-29 11-11-55

    I think those are very valid points... and until our government gets off it's collective ass and does something about the health care crisis in this country, I say why not. Health care should be a right and not a priviledge.
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    2011-12-02 3-34-06-

    I would be concerned with binding myself financially to someone that I didn’t live with and that might not always be focused on the same goals as I am. Marriage gives a lot of liberties and responsibilities so only you could really know whether the benefits outweigh the responsibilities. I would think that in most situations the responsibilities always outweigh the benefits unless the benefit is love and that of course trumps everything. The government won’t let us marry who we want to but likes to point out that we can marry a man just like every other woman in America. So for me, I’d be damned if I would let them (insurance co. or gov) question the validity or veracity of my marriage contract to a man. I’m not going to let someone tell me who I can marry then also tell me what makes our marriage valid enough for them. I know heterosexual couples that haven’t lived together for years and are only devoted to that marriage license. They’re catholic instead of homosexual but nobody comes along and suggests that it’s insurance fraud when they use each others insurance benefits.
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