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2011-02-08 13-34-35

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he wants to not feel guilty about it
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2011-02-11 16-22-04

^ agreed HE wants to convince himself he doesn't have to wear a condom because he doesn like how it feels. There is an alternative he hasn't considered, of course.... monogamy.
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2011-02-12 17-08-40

Let's him what he really is.... a psychopath. He goes out and puts others at risk and I hope he gets caught and put away for it. I do believe I've heard in a lot of states it's considered premeditated murder if it's not disclosed someone is positive and their partner gets infected.
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2011-02-17 2-48-58-

he only puts people who bareback at risk and who cares about those people? 'premeditated murder' LOL! get a grip on yourself -and use a condom every time
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2011-02-19 12-05-45

You are correct People who know they have AIDs, do not practice safe sex, and do not disclose the fact that they are HIV+ to sex partners can be prosecuted for premeditated murder. The courts have repeatedly upheld that ruling in separate cases.
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    2011-02-26 3-12-02-

    thats complete bullshit dont the other partners have a choice in using condoms?
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    Marjoke

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    2011-03-03 2-04-08-

    in washington state the pedestrian has the right-of-way at every intersection and marked crosswalk. every intersection. this means that if a ped walks against the light and gets hit by a car, the FAULT is on the driver of the car. the ped still gets a jay-walking ticket. (assuming he lived.) the guy who didn't wear the condom got what's coming to him, for being stupid. the guy who knowingly infected him needs to get his as well. guy is stupid, the other is a criminal. when an old lady gives her credit card info to a scammer over the phone, she is being stupid - the scammer is committing fraud. knowingly passing on an incurable virus should be a criminal offense in my opinion. a civil offense? that's where your argument of "he had a choice to wear a condom" comes in to play.
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    2011-04-10 11-03-38

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  • hilla

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    2011-04-17 0-48-58-

    Completely irrelevant analogies your sexual health is YOUR responsibility if you chose to ignore YOUR responsibility it is nobodys fault but YOURS the solution is simple: assume everyone is POZ and act accordingly if i walked up behind you and stabbed you with a needle and you got infected -THATS a real crime if you share the needle with me of your own volition -thats just your lack of good judgment What you want is to abdicate YOUR responsibility and CRIMINALIZE consensual sexual behavior. Thats RIDICULOUS
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    2011-04-27 1-52-30-

    how is stepping into the street, against the light, NOT your responsibility? how did i say wearing a condom was NOT my responsibility? i was trying to very clearly illustrate that guilt on side of the issue, does NOT absolve guilt on the other side. if someone knowingly infects another human being - they are of a criminal mindset. (a mindset where purposefully harming someone else without any provocation is acceptible.) in my opinion, committing a crime. the dip-stick who didn't wear a condom however, should not be able to file civil charges against the perp, with the claim that the perp has somehow caused said dip-stick any sort of hardship or financial loss - quite simply because of what you stated: it is the dipstick's personal responsibility to protect his own dipstick.
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    2011-07-09 0-12-04-

    don't use irrelevant analogies use the next most infectious thing to sex: syringes if i stab you with and you get infected = crime if you willfully share it with me, knowing you might be infected = NOT crime Having sex is a risk. Having sex with people you dont know well is even more of a risk. You want to abdicate YOUR responsibility to assess that risk and live by the consequences to the courts and lawyers. You want to CRIMINALIZE consensual sex. Therefore you are wrong. There is no duty to 'disclose' anything. Your only duty is to protect yourself. Use Condoms Every Time.
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    2011-07-14 10-04-35

    it is very clear in our law system as it is setup today, that 'intent' is very much a part of determining criminal guilt. possibly i missunderstand what you are suggesting. If you are suggesting that the system be changed as to whether or not 'intent' be considered in a criminal case - that's a whole different conversation. if you are suggesting that it is not currently a crime to willfully harm another individual, then you are simply mistaken. consent or not. the prosocuter can prosocute someone regardless of the victim's desire to prosocute or not. separate from the legal aspect of this, i disagree with *part* of your premise. i do believe it is x% the responsibility of any person engaging in sex, to protect themselves. I also believe it is the responsibility of someone who knows themselves to be HIV+ to disclose that information if they are going to engage in unprotected sex. i've been on this board long enough to know that you will only read the second half of that last paragraph, and thereby, discussing this further is likely futile. we disagree. i'm gonna move on.
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    2011-12-13 13-38-43

    'intent' LMAO! stick to stuff you know something about there is no intent because there is no crime. you are trying to equate fucking you with assaulting you and thats why you are WRONG there is no 'duty' to disclose your private health status -your doctor can't even disclose it, save in extreme circumstances your duty is to wear condoms every time full stop.
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    2012-07-05 22-06-34

    What's cerebral about owning responsibility for your sexual choices rather than create an entire false infrastructure of social 'mores' simply because you cannot face the reality than in this year of our lord, sex comes with CONDOMS every time the idea that people have a 'duty' to announce their private health information just so you can keep tricking is INSANE and barely anyone notices.
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    2012-09-20 12-10-29

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    2012-11-18 1-19-05-

    you want what i got? fucking is not a crime. knowingly, willfully infecting someone with a virus, is. the reason it is? because the courts have said so. not me. certainly not you. can you debate this? no. so is it a crime? yes. if you don't think so, you quite simply don't get *it.* should it be? <---- this is where we disagree. why? because i believe that fucking someone with the intent to infect them is dispicable. you think that fucking someone and not disclosing your health status is an honorable thing to do. you equate theas the same thing. they are not. walking into the office after just realizing that you're coming down with the flu (during which it is most highly contagious) is just an ass-hole thing to do. take itstep further; walking into a person's office, knowing full well that you are highly contagious with the flu, and getting very close to them and having a long conversation because you REALLY want them to get sick? <----- just plain fucked up. now - do that with an incurable (unless you're mdgreg) virus? crime. but moreover? dispicable. and not disclosing your status and having unprotected sex? chicken-shit. doing it with the intent to infect people? crime. got it? damn it. why do i do this? nevermind. you're right. i'm wrong. i'm clearly too dense to see why purposefully spreading HIV isn't a bad thing. don't worry about me - i'll be over here playing with clifford in the sandbox. please carry on. i'll not be bothering you again.
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    2013-03-08 11-56-15

    You’re getting way too worked up, but bottom line is when you wake up HIV+ because you failed to protect yourself, whether or not the person that infected you is criminally liable and/or despicable is not going to change your situation and to a large degree irrelevant. Just like if you walk in front of a speeding car and you wake up dead, does it really matter that you had the legal right of way?
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    2013-03-29 23-20-08

    exactly. EXACTLY. exactly. thank you! saying thatthing IS the case, does not mean that the other is automatiy NOT the case. saying that the guy who commits a crime should go to jail, does NOT excuse the guy who got infected from the responsibility of protecting himself.
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    Seems many states disagree with you whether its a crime, since people have and are being arrested and charged resulting from failure to disclose: www.hivlawandpolicy.org/resources/download/x
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